Remembrance Day 2017

This is the post I put up for Remembrance day two years ago. It seems as pertinent now as it did then.

Remembrance Day, and the wearing of poppies, seems to be something that divides opinions and causes a certain amount of friction, especially in Britain.


On one side, there are those who say that simply wearing a red poppy is a glorification of militarism, whilst on the other are those who argue that it is all about respect; about honouring the dead.

Are we remembering the First World War, one hundred years ago, or are we celebrating it? There would seem to be quite a few people, judging from conversations that I have heard and threads that I have seen, who are happy to confuse the two and seem unwilling to listen to what is really being said.

A lot of nonsense, of course, is spoken by both sides:

‘Every soldier is/was a hero’

‘Anyone who objects to them is a traitor’

‘It is all about glorifying war and militarism’

Unfortunately, as soon as a debate becomes in any way emotional, then there is a tendency both for people’s opinions to become polarised, and for their perceptions of the opinions of others to also become polarised.

And then anything that your ‘opponent’ says is jumped upon as furiously as if they had just advocated the torture and murder of all children and little furry animals.

But they haven’t, so calm down.

Now then, the facts.

It may come as a surprise to some people, but the poppy was not chosen because the red colour of its petals symbolised bloodshed, but because of its ability to bloom where the ground has been smashed and churned up, such as at the Somme, where it was noticed by a Canadian soldier, Col. John McCrae, a physician, who wrote a poem about it, and through this it was adopted later by the Royal British Legion as a symbol for their poppy appeal. It is intended to symbolise how someone whose life has been in dreadful turmoil may come later to peace and normality.

The white poppy was first used in 1933, to remember those who had died, but also as a determination to work for peace. It was mildly controversial at the time, and some women lost their jobs for wearing it, but in more recent times Margaret Thatcher expressed her distaste for it and there are many now who follow her lead.

The Royal British Legion point out that they have no objection to the white poppy or, as some people like to do, it being worn alongside the red poppy.

To return to the controversy, then.

Why does it only commemorate the military? What about the civilians who died? What about the conscientious objectors who died for their beliefs? When it was first used by the Royal British Legion, it was to raise funds for disabled servicemen and the families of those who had been killed, so this wasn’t an issue then. When the white poppy was introduced, in many people’s minds it came to represent those others.

Does it glorify war? In some people’s minds, no doubt, it does, but this is not its purpose. Even the military will say that part of the purpose of Remembrance Day is to help to ensure that a war like WW1 never happens again. It is important to remember the horrors to avoid sleepwalking into them again.

There are also many people who feel it terribly important that it should be worn the ‘right way’, but there is no agreement over what this ‘right way’ is. Some say it should be worn on the left side, some that men should wear it on the left and women the right. Many argue over when it should be first worn – from October 31st? The eleven days leading up to Remembrance Day? After Guy Fawkes Night? Some argue that it should be worn with the leaf pointing to eleven o’clock. There are no ‘official’ guidelines on this.

The poppy, and Remembrance Day, are used also as propaganda by hate groups like ‘Britain First’ (if you have never heard of them, they describe themselves as a patriotic political party and street defence organisation’ – I think that tells you everything that you need to know), who choose to ignore facts such as that 400,000 Muslim and 1.2 million Indian troops fought alongside the allies in World War 1, many giving their lives, and like to think of it as a symbol of white Britishness. This, of course, is not a reason to object to the poppy, but only to the hate groups, especially as this only helps to further polarise opinions.

I do not see, then, any reason why pacifists should object to the red poppy and the Remembrance Day tradition, or why servicemen should object to the white poppy. If they all take the time to understand what each one represents, then they should understand that there is no real conflict in their views, and that both represent remembrance and respect.

14 thoughts on “Remembrance Day 2017

  1. Well said, Mick. I’m a member of the generation that was in constant contact with the WWI generation, and it’s something of a shock to realise that we’re dying out now.

    My grandmother’s favourite brother was killed on the Somme, and she never ceased to mourn him. One of her cousins died at Gallipoli, and another at Passchendaele. Two of my grandfather’s brothers were killed within a month or so of each other in France in 1918.

    The family sense of loss was palpable, even though (unlike WW2) it was the war we didn’t talk about. To me, the red poppy is a sign of mourning. I wear it in NZ in April, and I wore it when I was in the UK in November 2016. If people prefer to wear a white poppy, that’s fine by me.

    What does annoy me is the morons who can’t resist grandstanding about one thing or another.

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    1. Very well put, Denise, and you’re absolutely right. The morons grandstanding and attempting to hijack the poppy for their own ends are despicable, I feel.

      The poppy is a symbol of remembrance, loss and hope, and when groups attempt to make political capital out of it, it infuriates me.

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  2. ” Poppies are for remembrance,” I remember one of the ladies (who was an employee of the client for whom I was working) in Brighton saying this to me. She had handed me a card with poppies on it when I was coming back. This makes me wonder why people do not see the simple context and make issues out of small things. Thanks for sharing the details, Mick.

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  3. Wise words, Mick. In the US, we don’t do poppies, although we do have “Veteran’s Day” when people who died in service are honored and remembered. But the point you are making works for any conflict and/or difference of opinion. We accomplish nothing when we stop listening to people who have different ideas, and honestly, we don’t always have to choose sides either. Sometimes, different ideas can coexist side by side, just like the red and white poppies.

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  4. I think this controversy will continue because there are two sides to it. There is no doubt that Britain was a Big imperial power and which explains why people from its colonies fought for allies. It is also fact that the soldiers were merely acting for their masters. So it is not wrong to remember them. These poppies remind me of a picture I saw long ago from Afgan war where fighters were sporting white poppies with Kalashnikov rifles. I’m talking of Russia vs Afghanistan war.

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    1. Sadly, it seems to be only comparatively recently that most people acknowledge – or even realise – the huge sacrifice made by so many Colonial soldiers during the wars. And, of course, remembering all the soldiers who died is not the same as saying any of it was right or wrong. It is just acknowledging their sacrifice.

      I hadn’t seen the picture of the Afghan soldiers, though. Do you know whether that was to acknowledge the dead?

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