I have three questions for everyone out there who has self-published a book or books.
If you used a platform other than Amazon, which one did you use, why did you use it, and how do you promote and sell?
I have published two books, both on Amazon, and I used that platform as it seemed the easiest and is obviously popular and sees lots of traffic. Yet I would now rather not use it. I actually avoid buying anything on Amazon if I can, feeling there is so much about it (and its founder) that I do not like. But equally I would not like to be a hypocrite, so I need to find another platform which will work for me.

What is the answer, good people of WordPress?
I have never self-published so I can’t answer your question, Mick.
I will return to read the response you receive. I am very curious about it.
Hope you are well.
Best of luck.
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Thank you, I’m fine at the moment. Hoping your health is much improved, too!
Hopefully we will gain some useful knowledge.
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Yes, I am very happy and healthy now. Thank you.
Yes, I have never dared to self publish. This may be the year I start. Thanks for the post. It should be helpful.
Have a good one.
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You should!
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Thanks for the encouragement.
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I’ve used both Smashwords and Draft2Digital (D2D), and one attempt with Google Play, but removed that. I haven’t tried to do it by sales sites individually (Kobo, Apple, etc.), too much work. Some have who say it’s worth it for the deals they get, but I’m not good enough to go the whole highway thing yet.
I’m about to take D2D (I used them as they sell through Amazon, but the returns to me aren’t as expected (shd be 70%, but isn’t for all countries) out of the frame, and stick with Smashwords (who may sell through Amazon if you get good sales).
Good luck, and it would be interesting to see how you go with it.
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Thanks, Cage. I’ve had Smashwords recommended to me before, but I understand they only produce e-books and not physical copies – I think those are what might cause me the most problems, and that’s the format I would like most to produce.
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I think it depends on whether you want to see primarily ebooks or paperbacks. From what I’ve heard there are far better places to see ebooks from than Amazon – Kobo or even Apple Books. I’m actually thinking of looking into it. I’ll let you know what I discover.
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Thanks, Jan. I’d like both, but I see paperbacks as being slightly more of a priority. I’ve tried Kobo in the past and I wasn’t overly impressed, but having said that I made no effort to promote them. In fact promotion is likely to be my biggest problem, but that’s another story.
Yes, I’d be really keen to find out what you learn.
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Oh my – I never got your response. Of course I meant to say if you want to “sell” (not see).
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I went with Draft2Digital for a while. They distribute ebooks to other platforms such as Kobo, Apple etc. Unfortunately I haven’t had any luck ‘going wide’. Haven’t had a hell of a lot on Amazon either, but I have had some. I suspect it doesn’t matter where you have your books for sale so long as you market them properly. I’m terrible at marketing and can’t afford paid advertising so…-shrug-
I have just read an interesting post about paid advertising that said some of these advertising places have caps on how much you have to spend – e.g. Book Raid has a cap of $40 so no matter how many ‘clicks’ you get, you only pay a max. of $40. That’s something I could afford so…maybe next time I’ll give one of those places a try.
Good luck. 🙂
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Cage mentioned Draft2Digital – I’d never heard of them before.
‘I suspect it doesn’t matter where you have your books for sale so long as you market them properly. I’m terrible at marketing and can’t afford paid advertising’ – those are absolutely my feelings, too. I can’t market to save my life – in which case perhaps it doesn’t matter what platform I use!
And I’ve never paid for advertising, because the feedback I’ve had is that it never justifies the outlay, but it might be worth looking at the Book Raid one you mention.
Thank you!
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You’re welcome, Mick. Goes without saying I’d love to know how you go, if you go. 🙂
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I will make a decision and move. I feel I don’t want to be a part of Amazon any more than I can help, now.
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It’s not the platform it once was, that’s for sure. Best of luck. -hugs-
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Thanks, Andrea.
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Thanks, Patty. Sadly I’m a DIY author because I can’t afford to pay for professional help.
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Well I have some things that would cost no more than the price of a pizza every 90 days. LOL.
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Maybe one day. 🙂
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Reblogged this on Plaisted Publishing and commented:
Other platforms I’ve used… for myself or for clients. Smashwords, draft to digital, Lulu, Ingram Spark. I’ve yet to use Kobo and Nook (Barnes & Noble) Each one is different on how you upload and set up your book to some degree. Most of them do wide distribution which means you can still get books on Amazon, however, the royalty is peanuts. During these Covid times, I don’t publish paperbacks on KDP due to not being able to get Author Copies sent to NZ. I have to use Lulu instead. I don’t like the paperbacks on Draft to digital (unless they have changed since I last looked.) I like Smashwords because it means those who use a screen reader can still download and read your book. It really is a matter of picking and choosing what is right for you.
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Thanks for the re-blog, Claire.
Lulu and Smashwords are platforms that seem to be getting lots of mentions. It would be ideal, obviously, to have both e-book and paperback on the same platform (another reason I used Amazon), but I think I’m correct in thinking Smashwords don’t produce paperbacks. Do Lulu produce e-books?
I’d settle for a smaller royalty if I was happy with the platform, as long as it wasn’t ridiculously small – it would feel like the situation I’ve met in my incarnation as a painter when gallery owners want to take about 80% of any sales and you think ‘Well, I painted the damn thing! I don’t think so!’
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Lulu do both ebooks and paperbacks, however they have just introduced a fee for ebooks. I think it is $4.99 Their royalty payment can be via paypal, which a lot of people seem to like. They have also just updated their site.
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Ah, I must go and take a look. Thanks.
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I think that fee is worth it!
I cannot remember if my books are there or not?
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I’m actually starting to wonder about Lulu. They now have everything automated… no real people, which for me has created issues. However, i will work them out.
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I’ll take a good look at them, as I will the others, before making any decisions.
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While I do use Amazon as a publishing platform, I have bought a lot of great books from Lulu.com Also, for eBook publishing, Smashwords.com cannot be beaten anywhere at all.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, Patty. Both of those seem to be getting lots of mentions. That in itself is a good recommendation.
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We used Kobo for a while but never sold many there.
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No, I used Kobo – mainly because one person asked me if I could set it up as they used a Kobo reader.
It was the only copy I sold on there.
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I have a client who is using kobo and getting results it has come about by my putting his kobo link directly into his sponsor ad space. Anyway, you really have to realize that we as authors are in a blizzard of authors we are but snowflakes in that blizzard and so if people do not know about us they cannot by our work they are not scrolling through Amazon looking for us we have to leap out at them.
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Yes, promotion and advertising are another whole can of worms for me. I find self-promotion really difficult and am very reluctant to pay for advertising.
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See my latest book, Pathway to Freedom Broken and Healed: How a Seeing Eye Dog Retrieved My Life Second Edition in eBook and Paperback at: https://www.amazon.com/Patty-L.-Fletcher/e/B00Q9I7RWG
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Got it, thanks.
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The problem is we make money from the Amazon pages read, and we’d lose those if we go wide.
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Yes, I know. I’m just deciding how I’m going to solve this for my own books. Personally, I don’t mind losing a bit (not that I make much anyway) to be on a another platform. I’d like that platform to work, though.
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The ad thing with Amazon is a trap. You can never expand if you get stuck in that.
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See my latest book, Pathway to Freedom Broken and Healed: How a Seeing Eye Dog Retrieved My Life Second Edition in eBook and Paperback at: https://www.amazon.com/Patty-L.-Fletcher/e/B00Q9I7RWG
Find it in various accessible formats: https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/PattyFletcher
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No, the whole point of this was to get off of Amazon as a platform.
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Hi.
I thought so but someone wrote how the ads and the money they make from them makes it hard to go wide and so thatâs what inspired my thought. Sorry, possibly I replied to the wrong comment. Thatâs easy to do when youâre using a screenreader program. Sometimes the computer doesnât do quite what you tell it. ð
I enjoyed the post.
Patty L. Fletcher
Self-Published Author and Social Media Promotional Assistant
Email: patty.volunteer1@gmail.com
See my latest book, Pathway to Freedom Broken and Healed: How a Seeing Eye Dog Retrieved My Life Second Edition in eBook and Paperback at: https://www.amazon.com/Patty-L.-Fletcher/e/B00Q9I7RWG
Find it in various accessible formats: https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/PattyFletcher
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Thanks, Patty.
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We tried a couple of times with kobo. We only ever got tiny sales.
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No, I don’t think I’ll go with them again.
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Haven’t published a book yet. 😀
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I’m sure it’s only a matter of time, Aditya!
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I am aware that there are options but I have never used them!
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Trouble is, I’ve never used most of them, either!
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Hopefully someone can give you some proper advice here Mick. There must be somewhere with more integrity that you can sell through. Amazon seems to be taking over the world.
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That’s the problem, Jonno. I really don’t want to be part of them any more than I can help and not using them as a publishing platform seems a good start.
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My books have been languishing because I’ve been offline for quite a long time. I had them enrolled in Amazon KDP Select because the Countdown deals used to bring in sales. I’ve taken them out now and will be going with Draft2Digital. D2D is starting paperback publishing too now. The Amazon taking over the world thing is definitely a thing. I watched a Youtube artist’s video about the Amazon Basics colour pencils and was blown away by how many people commented that they would never buy them on principle no matter how well they worked.
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I think D2D is another one I must take a look at – a couple of other people have mentioned them.
I like that you say there were a lot of people commenting they would never buy the Amazon pencils on principle – I hope that attitude spreads a bit more!
Thanks, Jo.
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This looks interesting…
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I have little experience in this. I do hope you find something better.
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Thanks, Arv. Pondering my choices!
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cool
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I have books published on Amazon. It was good to read the comments here though to give me more ideas.. May I ask why the problem with Amazon?
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I dislike Amazon as an overlarge global entity who are reluctant to pay taxes, reluctant to pay their staff decent wages, and who find it convenient to hang onto any money earned from book sales by you or me for three months before paying us.
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I’ve had friends and one relative who published on Lulu. I’ve never self-published anything myself – at least, not to sell online… have certainly done some offline self-publishing but that was always small run and was poetry.
Be aware that some of the sites that seem to be separate from Amazon are either owned by them or distribute to Amazon. It has its greedy claws in everything.
Hope you’re well, sorry I’ve not been around the blogosphere much. Since getting rid of all of my blogs I’ve been rather distracted by other things. Oh and I now have to use a new email for commenting as wordpress still haven’t released the one I used with Colouring the Past.
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Nice to see you here, Val.
Yes, they’re impossible to completely avoid. Many platforms will sell through Amazon, but since they won’t be the only platform, at least that dilutes their profits slightly. I’ve unpublished my books on Amazon, but they won’t take down the listing completely, as they argue someone might put up second copies. Not much I can do about that.
It’ll probably be Lulu – I haven’t decided for certain, yet. But no rush.
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You pose a great question. I have just learn of lulu and ingramsparks through YouTube research. I have also learned a few new ones reading the comments. Good luck with your quest of being free of amazon.
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Thanks, Nan. It will probably be Lulu.
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I have just this week launched my first book (under a pseudonym) with Smashwords. I am also learning the ropes with KDP. Will tune in to read more here… 🙂
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I must get around to republishing. I’ve unpublished from Amazon, but need to actually do the work now to republish.
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I’m just trying to figure out if I can publish at Amazon while also publishing at Smashwords. I quite like Smashwords, so far (and I’m VERY new at this)…and Amazon, honestly, gives me the willies. I feel…overwhelmed over there.
The journey continues. 🙂
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It depends what you’re after, really. There’s no reason you can’t publish on both platforms, unless with Amazon you enrol your book into their KDP select scheme, in which you declare your book will only be on their platform. It does work well – the reason I left is I have issues with them as a tax-dodging low-paying multinational, not their efficiency.
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